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Re: re: Tony's msg

Nov 15, 1998 08:47 AM
by Rodolfo Don


>alpha@dircon.co.uk wrote:

>

>  That we see different meanings, or interpretations, of the same
words is all

>  part of the richness of Theosophy.  But once we begin to say one

>  interpretation is right to the exclusion of others, then all the
splits

>  start to happen.  The Theosophical Society becomes the Theosophical

>  Movement.

>

>You are right on target. It look like, we are all like the eight blind
men

>who tried to

>describe the elephant. Theosophy itself is not mentioned or defined in
the

>objects or the

>articles of incorporation.. All we need is one person who is not blind
--

>one who could

>see and describe what Truth is. Again we run into what seems to be a

>problem of trying

>to describe something which cannot be accurately and fully described
in so

>many words.

>

>The pity is that some still believe in and try to "teach" theosophy
and

>issue certificates you

>can hang on the wall. May be later degrees ending up Doctorate in
Theosophy

>-- just like

>Doctor of Divinity can be obtained. Who knows..

>

>If only we recognize and keep in mind that we are all inquirers, and

>nothing more.

>However scholarly one is in academic achievements -- passing many

>examinations -- it

>has nothing to do with inquiring about what Truth is. Just my 0.02.

>

>  On the other hand how do we square the rituals of the liberal

>  catholic church with what is written in the Mahatma Letters?  How do
we

>  square the original SD with the different versions?

>

>You cannot square.

>

>To square you need a lot of blind belief (which is very easy, as one
does

>not have to

>think) in the pronouncement of the well known theosophists of the day.
And

>many

>believed and still believe today. Of course, it is their birthright
to

>believe anything they

>want.

>

>It looks like the timing and the personalities involved in LCC. When
the

>coming of the

>World Teacher was announced, it was believed that there would be a
re-run

>of what

>happened 2000 years ago. Apostles and the LCC appears to have come in
handy.

>(Apostles were created in a hurry by declaring that many of them
passed

>thru great

>initiations in a great hurry, and every one was made to believe. Just
read

>Candles inthe

>Sun for the full story.)

>

>Also the leading "officially" sanctioned "occultist" was CWL. To me
his

>prior training as a

>priest must have colored his expectations how the World Teacher is
going to

>start his

>mission and LCC came in handy. So the three legs of the stool became -
ES,

>LCC, and

>Co-Masonry.  According to the author of Tillett, Elder Brother, some

>additional rituals (of

>the co-masonry) were extended by CWL to (young) women only who were
also in

>ES.

>

>Just my 0.02. Any feedback/thoughts.

>

<bigger><bigger><bigger>You hit the nail on the head!


</bigger></bigger></bigger>Why do you think we have the beautiful
motto:  "There is no religion higher than Truth" around the seal of the
Theosophical Society?


Because, rather than any interpretation of any scripture, or belief,
only Truth matters.


I'm going to bring up an example:  We have some discussions about a
former leader of the TS (Leadbeater, or Judge, or HPB, it doesn't
matter who it is) some of us are are defending him/her, others are
accusing the person of wrong doings.  Of course, if we know how
oppinionated we all can be, we won't reach to a compromise.  We won't
agree on anything!


But if we treat our beliefs the right way: as beliefs, and we regard
Truth as higher than anything else, as it really is (after all Truth is
what IS, not what we think it is).  It doesn't matter what we believe,
if we both regard Truth as the highest.  If we condition our beliefs to
Truth.


Am I clear?  Please let me know, because this is of the most
importance.


Rudy


>  Tony

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