Theos-Talk Archives (September 1998 Message tt00285)

Sept 26th 1998

Dear Daniel:

Answering your post regarding VOICE,  T. Co. edition.  I admire your work of
analysis and have already "answered" to the best of my ability, freely and
clearly.  And, I think I have exhausted the range of what I can write on.

 Personally, I do not find an altered the "meaning" philosophically or
metaphysically.  This is of course subjective to me.  And I can only speak
for myself and offer you my opinion now, as I have done in the past.  I am
sorry it does not seem to satisfy you.

If you desire to find out what T. Co. has to say I suggest you address them
directly and ask them.

Regards and best wishes,

Dallas

> From: "Daniel H Caldwell" <blafoun@azstarnet.com>
> Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: VOICE OF THE SILENCE---The Theosophy Co. edition
compared with the 1889 ORIGINAL


>Dallas,
>
>In reviewing my emails, I see that you never directly responded to the
>questions I was asking you about the VOICE.  My questions were prompted
>by what you had previously written.
>
>I hope that you will directly answer these questions for the benefit of
>all readers on Theos-World.
>
>FIRST QUESTION:
>
>> In the 1889 edition of THE VOICE, on pp. 45, 51, and 87, one finds the
>> following spelling of the word under consideration:
>>
>> P. 45  UPADYA
>>
>> P. 51  Upadya's
>>
>> P. 87  Upadya      [Word is in italics.]
>>
>> In your text above, Dallas, you say that the 1892 edition spells this
>> word as Upadhyaya. Therefore, some "editor" has changed the spelling
>> from the 1889 edition to the 1892 version.
>>
>> Now I ask you, what is the spelling of this word in The Theosophy
>> Company's edition?
>
>
>SECOND QUESTION:
>
>> In the original edition of THE VOICE, in HPB's preface, we find the
>> following in the 2 paragraphs quoted in my previous email:
>>
>> ". . . (Bhagavat-gita II. 70). . . ."
>>
>>  ". . . (Bhagavatgita II. 27). . . ."
>>
>> [Both words are in italics.]
>>
>> Dallas, what is the spelling of this Hindu text in the Theosophy
>> Company's edition?  And are the numbers [ II. 70 & II. 27 ] also given
>> in the Theosophy Company's edition?
>
>
>THIRD QUESTION:
>
>> Dallas wrote:
>>
>> >Why should I not recommend the T. Co. edition?  Did you find any
>changes in meaning?
>>
>> Daniel replies:
>>
>> But my question, Dallas, is why WOULD you want to recommend the
>> Theosophy Company's edition?  Just 5 days ago, you wrote:
>>
>> >I prefer a facsimile edition - no question of authenticity. Comments
>and changes can be put in an ADDENDUM for students to consult.
>>
>> >Verbatim editions are acceptable, if truly and accurately VERBATIM - no
>changes or emendations or interpolations.  Any such can be handled >through
an ADDENDUM.
>>
>> In light of your own words, the Theosophy Company edition is certainly
>> NOT a facsimile of the orginal VOICE.  And this edition is NOT a "truly
and accurately VERBATIM" edition since there are "changes or
>> emendations."  Furthermore, the Theosophy Company's edition contains
>> changes and emendations but the reader is not told this.
>
>
>FOURTH QUESTION:
>
>> Again, Dallas, you ask me:
>>
>> >Did you find any changes in meaning?
>>
>> Dallas, there are some 665 changes.  I would have to look at each change
>> and compare it to the original 1889 edition.
>>
>> But the important question is:   "Why did the 'editor' of the Theosophy
>> Company edition decide to make changes, then went ahead and made the
>> changes, and did NOT alert readers to those changes (however minor or
>> insignificant that editor or you may deem the changes)?"
>>
>> And if this "editor" can make 665 "silent" changes, why be so critical
>> of editing by G.R.S Mead or Boris de Zirkoff of THE SECRET DOCTRINE?
>
>
>AND MY FIFTH QUESTION (WHICH IS A NEW ONE) IS AS FOLLOWS:
>
>Dallas, in light of all these corrections in the Theosophy Company's
>edition of the VOICE, will you in the future continue to use/recommend
>the TC edition?
>
>And if you answer yes, why would you prefer this TC edition instead of,
>for example, the Theosophical University Press's current edition which
>has the same pagination as the original and is truly verbatim with the
>1889 edition of the VOICE?
>
>Maybe I have belabored the point, but these questions are worth asking
>especially in light of what you have written many times previously on
>the importance of facsimiles, etc. of HPB's writings.
>
>Thanking you in advance for your answers.
>
>Daniel H. Caldwell
>
>
>