Theos-Talk Archives (August 1998 Message tt00376)

August 20th

Dear Paul:

Let me add some notes interpolating them in your responses:

> Date: Monday, August 17, 1998 11:35 AM
> From: "Bazzer (Paul)" <bazzer@co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Adepts are Maya

>Dallas wrote:
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>>  Isn't the inter-relation of numbers and ratios a valuable tool ?
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>What is the meaning of "number" in the context of our studies?  Is it
>symbolic of Hierarchies, Cycles, Beings, states of Consciousness?

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I have assumed that "numbers" play the part of algebraic formulae -- or
ratios -- between themselves.

I would not imply that Hierarchies, Cycles, Beings are invariably designated
by numbers, although I can conceive that in the totality of the Universe
some "Number" may be assigned by great Nature to designate one or other of
these.

If one adopts a certain schedule of relationships, as for instance you will
find in early writings between the Mahatmas and Mr. Sinnett one notices
there that the 7th principle meant Atma; and the 6th, Buddhi; and the 5th,
Manas, and so forth.  But that was a kind of shorthand to simplify and speed
up communication.  In this connection one finds that HPB in later comments
states taht the principle of ATMA (spirit) ought to be given Number 1, and
the Physical body, the lowest -- # 7, to be consistent with the development
of intelligence in a downward sweep.

Later when tables were used and agreed on it is conceivable that a similar
shorthand was used to desgnate other relationships.

I think we ought to take note of such things and see if we can decipher a
meaning as to their use.

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>What is the meaning of "ratio"? An attempt at an example might be:


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A "ratio" to me implies an arithmetical relationship.

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>There is the Fifth Principle, and the Fifth Hierarchy, and the Fifth
>Root Race, and the Fifth Round, and the Fifth Globe etc. etc..  What is
>the "ratio" (inter-relation, maybe?) between these?  What is the "ratio"
>between fifth principle of the average human being and Fifth Principle
>of a Master?  What is the "ratio" between a Master and Chohan, or a
>Master and an ant? Ad infinitum.
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In the diagram on SD I 200 and explanations relative to the Rounds, globes,
Races, etc... we find that Round 4th and Globe D (or the 4th thereon)
represents the lowest descent into matter.  We as a "Race"  are said to be
the 5th Race -- and therefore are past the mid-point in the sweep of
manvantaric evolution a point at which the "Lighting up of Manas" is said to
have taken place for those Monads which were destined to become human and
move over from their purely "animal stage" development into that of humanity
where the mind being lit up responsibility and self-determination become the
tools to be used and developed through the process of evolution that
pertains there.  And we are involved in that.


I do hope this is of some help.  But really I am of the belief that one has
to use the INDEX to the S D  and pursue all the correlative references if
one desires to secure a survey of the methods employed by HPB and the
Masters (who jointly wrote th SD for our use ) to educate us into their
information and methods of teaching.

And best wishes to you too,  Dallas

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>All good wishes,
>Paul (Bazzer)
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