Theos-Talk Archives (July 1998 Message tt00226)

I would never repeat any of the words I heard here, nor consider them to be
relevant because filled with DOUBT.  I need a group where we can manage to
find truth under whatever guise and not expect grandiose fulfillment of
anyone's unreasonable expectations for man.

As for Kym's response to Allan, I think it shows a lack of respect for his
training, which was received by "other schools" rather than theosophy, and
his appeal is probably not far from what is allowed at other schools.  It
isn't rare to think of Zen masters calling their monks names for lines of
thought that don't bring concert or harmony into the group. If we could
manage to appreciate other disciplines, we could manage to wrangle the
underlying truth out of them.  If I know Allan, he will appease himself as
he has shown he was able to do with me, and return to being a likeable guy.
 He flies off the handle because he knows how to squeeze an ounce of truth
out of a whole lot of experience which doesn't always relate to truth.
Somehow the reaction to the shock of his attitude is one which brings into
the immediate realm the vast possibilities life affords.

Isn't it possible that it is your own pride and selfishness that won't
allow you to encourage this man to teach whatever is on his mind?  He has a
preconceived agenda relative to the material here, but it may not always be
pleasant.  Perhaps there are those who take the stand that if there is
suffering, there isn't learning or somehow that suffering isn't needed and
so rather than look within a distraught set of circumstances, they will
automatically turn away and recoil.  Don't be so sure that just because we
have read that a serpent lies under every flower (paraphrased from the
VOS), that the reverse isn't true also, a flower lies beneath every serpent.

In theosophy, we do accept teachers.  I feel we have a fine opportunity
here to host Allan and to learn all we possibly can about the Personalists
and what his type of training will bring to anyone who undertakes it.  It
takes people who can be inquiring and not someone who feels it is relevant
again to cast some men down below validity status, because he has his
standards set so firmly that only his way can be considered the real one in
the idea that all teachers are suspect except theosophy's.

What point to you, Brant, serve by again throwing discredit upon any person
struggling for truth realization in an unpredictable world?  Even those
whom you label misguided and misguiding have a right to rectify and
struggle alongside the theosophical world.  They are more welcome here than
those who just wish to write them off the books as having any semblance to
the word "truth."

What could anyone ever find to say to you that would make any difference?
They weren't words from your chosen masters.

I think that I shall be forced to look elsewhere for inquiring minds and am
resigning from this list.

Brenda

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