Theos-Talk Archives (April 1998 Message tt00396)

Dear Brenda
You are untiring in your replies. There are a few queries and comments
dotted around through your reply.

> we should strive to view
>life beyond our current "societal" limitations.
Agreed

> What if a typical "cool jerk" instead
>of a noble "doctor of philosophy" experiences truth and tries to talk about
>it? Will the world listen?

Will the world listen to either, anymore than to HPB or the Masters.
It is living in the world and not being of it.

> Ascension, when it comes from anyone, is worthy
>of my ear. It thrills me to find ascended masters interested in the lowly
>and meek
as was the Buddha, the Masters and HPB (not suggesting you disagree)

>and not just those who excel like an Einstein.

>Under my current realization of what "the Presence" is, I would say that
>yes, we do have to ascend into the presence, but that a simultaneous
>"descent" into the Presence takes place by the Masters so that now we both
>live at a level at which we can communicate and cooperate.
>
>Try to think for a minute how much mental energy can actually be exchanged
>between a dinosaur, for example, and a human being! This is the way that I
>picture ascended masters in their dealings with us. I don't mind the idea
>that we are teaching the dinosaurs to talk, to move, to build, to care for
>young, old, and feeble, and things like food foraging, but these are side
>issues, because the whole event (in my mind) takes place not only to
>further the evolution of the beings who are here and resident on earth, but
>also to allow the "creation" and "active exploration" of physical vehicles

do you mean just physical vehicles?

>for those existing on a higher plane. If I were to enter into association
>with the masters (because humans obviously have the earth now and no
>present contact with dinosaurs), I would imagine my mind would be so active
>taking it all in that I would have little time to focus on assuming any of
>the physical activities involved in the "androgynous" pairing of two
>beings.

This comes over as an odd statement. Why are you bringing in
"androgynous/hermaphrodie"?

>If I could be allowed to live as "pure mental energy," I could
>focus my mind on how to accomplish things I observed as well as how to
>continue participation with other human beings (mentally) and it's no
>simple answer all of the time how to move from point A to point B,
>logically. Even the best human mentalities are going to be stumped with
>observing beings not just one simple evolutionary step beyond man, but
>seven (or in a sense, even 49 separate globe periods). It takes the animal
>or dinosaur 7 rounds, equalling 49 globes, equalling 7 races times the 49,
>before the beast will be human under the proposed SD theory.

And they might still not meet the deadline, after all that time!

> When we use
>all of our senses, even with masters stepping down the teaching to us, we
>are going to have to expend considerable mental energy

Are you sure it would be expending mental energy....we could be
restoring/rebuilding or building.

> in watching and
>learning how things work, and then still not completely solve the puzzle.
>Because at some future time, the learning and observing of their worlds is
>over and WE have to put it into practice, first in designing our bodies and
>those in the world around us and then in living together as beings who are
>guided inwardly in our own right by ATMA, by MONAD, by the SUN, or whatever
>your explanations and meditations can depict that to be. (If this occurs
>for the period of one race, the fourth, then perhaps we run out of ideas,
>so to speak, run out of good karma, or reach a point where we can go no
>further safely, and them the divine plan blesses us with the intervention
>of the next highest kingdom of nature and these masters whisk us away to
>safety and interaction with them instead of failure, difficulty, and harm
>which would befall us instead.
>
>So while this process of ascension is going on, let's not forget that we're
>going through this again soon and somehow perhaps we can adapt our physical
>world and living conditions in ways that permit the "light" within us to be
>further unveiled and put to use.
>
>Sorry this is so winding and unclear. Let me know if any of it makes sense.

Sorry to be so tiresome but could you explain again what an ascended master
is? Do you see KH as an ascended Master? Just above you write "So while
this process of ascension is going on" - it is difficult to grasp what you
mean by this even though you have been explaining it.
Thanks
Tony.