Theos-Talk Archives (April 1998 Message tt00040)

No problem. I have seen the quote. See my comments below.

At 04:48 PM 4/5/1998 -0500, you wrote:
>mkr wrote:
>>HPB was very clear about the messenger to be expected this century. From
>>what I have read, Krishnamurti fits the scenario except that he did not
>>pursue the plan that was expected of him by Annie Besant and Leadbeater.
>
>Govert Schuller wrote Sunday, April 05, 1998 10:25 AM:
>> agree. Annie Besant referred explicitly to HPB's plan in the 'Key' when
>>he promoted K.
>>Considering the huge number of people who have been affected by
>>Krishnamurti, there is a very good possibility he may fit the profile.
>
>To Both of you,
>
>My dissent begins congruent with John Algeo. Yet more emphatically, I
>Disagree completely. According to many scholars of Theosophy, Govert
>Schuller, YOU included, Krishnamurti was blessed by our Lord Maitreya and
then
>later totally rebelled against his Guru! You will notice in the following
>materials downloaded from your own web page Govert, that Krishnamurti's
>teachings fly in the face of Cosmic Law according to the way HPB laid it down
>in SD and all her other books!
>
>Krishnamurti began teaching the following perversions:
>
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>"I have told you frankly that Masters are unessential, that the idea of
Masters
>is nothing more than a toy to the man who really seeks truth."
>
>J. Krishnamurti, The Collected Works of J. Krishnamurti (Dubuque IA:
>Kendall/Hunt, 1991), Vol. I, p. 173.
>

Even a 1000 scholars cannot know what is true. They can all be wrong.
Whatever concept we have of Masters are just our ideas and perhaps
speculation of them. One who is searching for Truth is going to wherever
that search is going to lead us, if we are serious about Truth and
everything else is only secondary. As regards some who think he rebelled
against his Guru, only Krishnamurti can know whether this is true or not.
Again, Sri Ram, one of the past presidents of TS, once commented the World
Teacher did not the way we expected. Only time can tell, as I already had
stated.

On another note, in the 1986 Convention Lecture, Radha Burnier, President
of TS(Adyar) stated that every spiritual organization like TS did not
survive over a century and that the fact TS has survived a century can be
attributed to Krishnamurti's approach of questioning every belief and idea
and concept we hold. This coming from Mrs. Burnier who has been at the
center of action at Adyar all her life must be based on her personal
experience and observation.

>"The core of Krishnamurti's teaching is contained in the statement he made in
>1929 when he said: 'Truth is a pathless land.' Man cannot come to it through
>any organization, through any creed, through any dogma, priest or ritual, not
>through any philosophic knowledge or psychological technique. He has to
find it
>through the mirror of relationship, through the understanding of the contents
>of his mind, through observation and not through intellectual analysis or
>introspective dissection."
>
>J. Krishnamurti, The Core of Krishnamurti's Teaching (Ojai CA: Krishnamurti
>Foundation of America, n.d.)
> --http://pages.prodigy.net/schuller/homep.htm
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> Thank you for your audience,
>
>
> Jeffrey Michael Hoover