Theos-Talk Archives (March 1998 Message tt00251)

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 02:54:18 -0800, you wrote:

>March 27th 1998
>
>Dallas TenBroeck writes:
>
>Dear Bee:
>
>Referring to your message of March 22nd. (repeated March 26th)  I had
>received the first, but have had difficulty with my computer links
>for outgoing messages, so have had to delay answering till today,
>when hopefully all things are set right again.  So here are my
>comments interjected/attached.  I hope that this is "OK"  =20
>
>Best wishes,		Dallas
>
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>> From: "Bee Brown" <bbbrown@ihug.co.nz>
>> Subject: Re:Re: Medium vs Chaneller
>> Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 10:14 PM
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>> On Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:27:32 -0500, you wrote:
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>> >>From personal experience, I find channeling a bit like radio
>> >>talk-backs. ... etc=20
>> >>It has made me aware of inner communication that still comes to
>me in
>> >>times of need or conflict. I wake at 3am and I have an inner chat
>with
>> >>an energy that refers to itself as the elder brother and it makes
>> >>suggestions but never dictates or tells me what I should do.=20
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>As far as I know from reading and study there are many kinds and
>levels of 'communication.' =20
>In view of the strong warnings that HPB gives in various places
>(ISIS, her articles, etc...) about dangers that are inherent in such
>communications I have refrained from trying any personal experiments
>in that regard.  So my knowledge is theoretical.
>
>In HPB's TRANSACTIONS OF THE BLAVATSKY LODGE (using the ULT Edition
>which has a total of 148 pages, I find on the section between pp 66
>and 78, valuable information concerning our HIGHER SELF -- apparently
>in residence within each of us -- and the fact that communication
>with IT is possible -- but HPB says that this is usually during the
>period of "deep sleep," and is usually not a conscious person to
>person exchange.  She speaks of the influence left on the waking
>brain-mind from such an event, and indicates that it can be vivid, or
>more or less altered by the nature of the "dream-thoughts and
>pictures" that serve as the link between the "deep-sleep" stage, and
>the "waking stage" of consciousness.
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>I wonder if you have read those comments of hers ?
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Yes I have read it some time ago so thanks for refreshing my memory.
The above description is not it either. I had to purposely tune myself
in to the idea of chanelling and wait for a certain sort of feeling to
come and then things would begin if I wanted it to. I got involved out
of curiousity but there was something more to it that I cannot really
explain. I am not usually inclined to allow my control of my faculties
to be out of control so it was an unusual thing for me anyway. It was
as if I was just keeping my hand in, at something I had done before in
some other life. It lasted for a couple of years and then the urge to
do it just faded away.
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>> >Bee,
>> >
>> >My own experience and research into this stuff suggests to me
>> >that we have instantaneous telepathic communication with every
>> >living being in our life wave at all times. We filter most of this
>stuff
>> >out, but when ideas come to us "out of the blue" they always come
>> >from somewhere, either a being incarnate or discarnate.
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>I would agree as to the possibility of instantaneous communication as
>my understanding of the powers resident in the "astral light" (or
>rather at least one of its 7 components) would allow for that under
>the compulsion of a determined "will."
>
>We are bombarded at all times with many kinds of waves and there is a
>"filtering out" which occurs so that we need only take notice of that
>which we desire to notice.  But to do this effectively apparently
>takes years of effort in any one incarnation, unless that faculty is
>brought forward from the past, and even then it has to be mastered as
>a "tool" in this life and with the present personality. =20
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>The moral/ethical quality of such messages is important, as you
>suggest.  It would not be very pleasant to have to encounter a
>"Dweller of the Threshold," or an "elementary !"
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It seems the group we had going built up an energy which we eventually
gave a name and then chanelled it also. It was after that, that the
group slowly drifted apart and later on I had an internal
communication that we had created an elemental and that we did not
really know what we were doing so it could have become dangerous if
someone in the group had inadvertently started using the elemental for
their own purposes so the group was disbanded by whom ever it was that
had instigated itin the first place. Yet the people from our group
somehow went on to better things and their life was different from
when they joined it in the first place. As there were 12 of us, it was
not just one or two, which could have been a coincidence.
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>> There is a difference between ideas coming out of the blue and the
>> more deliberate dialogue with some entity or whatever it may be. I
>am
>> very aware of the difference but I don't know just what it is that
>> communicates.=20
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>Excuse my ignorance, but what is "vitvan's cosmology and energy" ?
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>Does this differ from that of THE SECRET DOCTRINE ?
His writings are on a web page that was found a couple of years ago
and I have it all on my computer. He is particularly interesting as he
uses the ancient wisdom within the framework of physics and general
semantics. I am giving a talk on his concept of Maya which is the same
as theosophy's, just a different framework in which to discuss it.
He has used embroyology ??? and crystallography to explain the gap
between the etheric and the physical and how the spiritual affects the
cellular structure of matter and vice versa but I don't quite
understand it completely as I don't have a science background. I am
working on it as I feel there is something I want to know there,
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>> My study of vitvan's cosmology and energy world suggests that we
>are
>> constantly reacting to frequencies that have an attraction to our
>own
>> vibrations. It almost seems to me that it is possible to change
>one's
>> own vibes to a different wavelength and thereby become aware of
>> different energy worlds. I am pondering on this very largely at the
>> moment. :-)
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>There is also no question in my mind that each one of us as an entity
>has an integrity of his/her own, and that this is representable by
>the personal/individual "vibration" of this life.
>
>As to tuning it to others' I guess this can be done.  But why ?
>
>I am always curious in  myself concerning the reason why I may feel
>urged to do something or other, and consider then the essentiality of
>the urge -- is it curiosity or is it of value for self-education, or
>can I put it at service for others' use ?
>
>While I have spent a long number of years delving as deeply as I can
>into the teachings of Theosophy, there are many areas on which I know
>I am very ignorant.  so excuse some of my questions and statements in
>areas where I do not know yet.
>
>Best wishes, as always,			Dallas
>
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I am going to Springbrook in Australia on April 21 to do a Shool of
wisdom on the SD and the Letters with Adam Warcup so I am looking fwd
to that and hope to learn lots more.
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>> Cheers
>> Bee

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