Theos-Talk Archives (March 1998 Message tt00228)

March 26th 1998

Dear Mark:

Do I, in your answers, detect a doubt about our relation to the
Universe around us ?

I am not sure what I gather.  Let me see:  Do you think that each of
us creates in our own mind an idea of what the Universe is ?

Then, when we compare our conclusions, or visions, are we then unable
to bridge the gaps between the various personal "realities ?"

If so then is there a UNIVERSE ?  How is it to be described as
something that all can access ?  As I see it there is "me," then
there is the "outside mass of beings of many kinds," finally, there
is an ongoing interrelation between "me" and "those."  Question here,
to my mind, is are those interrelations comparable between us ?  Is
there some common ground on which we can talk or ask for
consideration ?"

What about ourselves ?  Are we only "real" to ourselves ?

If so, what would the relations between ourselves and our environment
be ?  are we totally interdependent, or is there a mutual dependency
?

My earlier comments do not intend to place my views in any one's
mind, to either alter or change them, but, rather, to ask if there
has been a similarity of perception.

I do not see how we can escape the "arrogance" of saying "I see," or
"I feel," or "I think," etc... but it would be arrogance to enforce
these views on anyone else.  In fact they cannot be enforced.  Even
an agreement to submit would be tempered by inevitable freedom of
thought, sill and conscience, would it not ?

Dallas

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> From: "Mark Kusek" <mark@withoutwalls.com>
> Subject: Re:The test true spirituality -- what is
universality ?
> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 9:59 AM
>
> Dallas TenBroeck wrote:
> >
> > March  25th 1998
> >
> > Dear Mark:
> >
> > I do not think that I meant to imply that we actually have in
hand
> > (just now) a grasp of the "total perception of the universe"  but
we
> > do have the potential of securing it.
>
> That's actually right. We don't have it. We only have our relative
> points of view.
>
> > No.  I did not mean personal "arrogance," but implied that we all
> > have such a potential and do not use it.
>
> The "universe" is a personal construct in the mind.
>
> Mark
>
>
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