Theos-Talk Archives (February 1998 Message tt00273)

Feb 20th 1998

Dear Pam:

The original purpose of all "Theos-talk" efforts and of all
"organizations" is to have a forum in, or at which Theosophical
philosophies and related matters could, and can,  be discussed.

Politics and religion and personal opinions  -- if they relate to
"side issues" detract from the study of Theosophical principles,
and the free flavor of interested interchange.  Lao Tsu and
Krishnamurti are good sources to become familiar with, but their
ideas are derived from a source called the "Wisdom-Religion," or
the "Esoteric philosophy," which are names given to Theosophy --
the perennial wisdom-philosophy that has been in the hands of
Sages and Adepts for thousands and millions of years.  Mme.
Blavatsky in ISIS UNVEILED, Vol 2, p. 99-103 gives a survey of
this ancient Lodge of Adepts.  It is also described in other
places.

Our World is like a School.  In essence we are immortals, who
come each life as to a day in class and there we learn together
the facts and rules of life as embedded in Nature ( which already
contains everything).  We look, inquire, seek and learn.  We are
all equal in this, and some are either more advanced, or delayed
than others, but everyone has the same opportunity.  Karma
(justice and equity) is the general Law of living.  Reincarnation
is the process for us, who are Minds in evolution.  There is much
more of course.

You are no doubt aware of the 3 Objects of the Theosophical
Movement and the T S -- from those individuals start to study
and find out what Theosophy is, and do not engage in"politics" or
"bickering."  There is enough of that in the outside ordinary
world, and true students of Theosophy, as I see it, are engaged
in finding out what can be done to help others to a grasp of the
fundamentals of life and useful living.  In that we exchange the
results of our individual quest -- so that friendly response may
assure us that we are on the right track.

So the response that comes in is of help to all when it is
exposed through the medium of a group such as "Theos-talk"
provides.  We can all benefit.

If, as a "new-comer" you study what HPB, the "Messenger" of the
Masters wrote -- as in THE KEY TO THEOSOPHY, you won't go far
wrong in securing from that a view of what she intended us to
understand.  There is plenty there that is new and surprisingly
practical and valuable.  that is what we are all discussing.  The
SECRET DOCTRINE is a wonderful source book for ore detailed
information.  It more easily accessible when one has acquired a
working vocabulary such as the KEY provides.

ISIS UNVEILED is a marvelous compendium assembling information
concerning the esoteric, the occult and the laws of the invisible
side of nature  (who has seen the Soul, or Spirit ? -- they are
inferred ), but with the evidence made available, these
"invisible" aspects of nature, which actually rule and guide
physical and visible events are made clearer to us.  That is part
of the growth that Theosophy encourages in each of us.

                Hope this serves to encourage,
Dallas


>From: "Pam Giese" <pgiese@snd.softfarm.com>
>Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 6:06 AM
>Subject: Re:An idea or oops


>Thoa writes:
>> Upon reflection and seeing the various responses, I realized
that I had
>no
>> business making comments on TS politics or getting involved
with it.  In
>> fact, I actually have no desire to get anywhere close to
anything
>smelling
>> like politics.  I'll keep myself away from those topics from
now on.
>When
>> you stick your nose where it doesn't belong, you risk it
getting bitten
>> off.  I think I'll go read some writings by Lao Tsu and
Krisnamurti.
>
>I enjoyed your perspective on this issue and I think many of
your comments
>are right on target.  I've only been a member of TS for a year.
My
>physical world contact with TS has been through the Wheaton
group and
>frankly, if it wasn't for other TS contacts via this email list,
I'd be
>dropping my membership at next renewal.  My experience of TS via
Wheaton is
>that of a stagnant organization stuck in the 19th century.  I've
attended a
>number of events there where I'm amoung the youngest
participant --I'm 41.
>Most events are geared to older participants who are content
with the
>passive lecturer-audience style of communication.  Most
attendees are
>white, over 60, or generally lacking any broad-based grounding
in occult,
>metaphysics, or cross-religious study. All this from a group
that is
>centrally located
>in the high-tech Silicon Prairie of the Chicago metropolitan
community --an
>area rich in cross-cultural diversity and sprouting many Hindu
and Buddhist
>centers.
>
>I hesitated to respond before because I've only been a member a
short time.
> Also, there's been a fair amont of flaming lately and I don't
like
>providing energy to such embers.  From conversations on this
list I've
>become aware that there are active TS groups that are running
rivers and
>not stagnant ponds.  This list has helped me see a broader view
of TS than
>the local center provides and I am thankful for that.  Granted I
usually
>just read,  but take it as a compliment --some of you are just
so clever
>and eloquent
>
>Pam
>pgiese@snd.softfarm.com