Theos-Talk Archives (February 1998 Message tt00103)

Dear Dallas you write
>As to present consciousness, and as to ecstasy -- I am wondering who is the
>"I" that now contemplates either going into such a state, or reviews having
>been there ?
You are correct in this pondering that the mystic reaches a state of ecstacy
by expanding his consciousness out from himself, (from the Greek 'put out of
place'). Ultimately his 'I' becomes one with the Divine 'I' and under normal
circumstances an individual loses consciousnessness.  The highly developed
mystic however is able to retain his consiousness in what could be a
dangerous process, as all highly passionate excercises are.


Is this the "Nabia" of the old Kabalists ?  [ Isis I p.
>xxxvii ]
Not on my reading of it.
Talking of Kapila the Hindu philosopher -
"in ecstacy a man has the power of seeing Deity face to face and conversing
with the "highest" beings..." Isis 1 p121 4th ed

>Or perhaps a state attained upon drinking the "Soma juice ?" [ Is I xl ]

These days people take 'ecstacy' which BTW was originally derived from
nutmeg oil.
This is of course a shallow reflection.

>Is it something we control at will, or is it a condition into which we
>involuntarily fall ?

I would have thought it cannot be forced or as with passionate ecstasy ever
repeated in the same way.

Cordially Yours,
Bruce