Theos-Talk Archives (January 1998 Message tt00040)

May I also add that the letters below are removed from their historical
context.  An out-of-context collection of letters can also be collected to
prove that Judge was in contact with the Masters.  So what does this prove?
My own reading of the letters below (after filling in the missing context)
suggests that Judge was very much acquainted with the Masters even at these
early dates, but he had no control over when they would or would not contact
him.  Therefore, he would seek other means though friends he knew were in
contact at the time.  Olcott appealed to HPB in the same way.  So did A.P.
Sinnett.  So what does this prove?  HPB was the primary contact with the
Masters.  Olcott saw much of the Masters because he happened to be at HPB's
side during this period?  When Olcott and HPB separated in 1886, things
changed for Olcott, and he suddenly wasn't getting daily visits from the
Masters.  But things were warming up for Judge.  As HPB wrote in 1888,  Judge
has been a chela of the Masters since 1875.  Obviously chelas undergo periods
of testing.  Judge's period of testing continued until 1888 when he then
became an integral and important part in the promulgation of Theosophy in
America and  throughout the world.  Olcott worked on his library.

JJHE



Dara Eklund wrote:

> Dear Skeptic:
>
>         All your letters (or fragments?) quoted below exclude the last 10
> years of Mr. Judge's life, and ignore statements by H.P.B. regarding his
> chelaship.
>
> >I have received from
> >several theosophists on >theos-talk letters of WQ Judge.  He writes
> >about his lack of communication with the Masters:
> >
> >"Now I would be very much pleased could I know
> >from whom it [the note] came, whether Kashmir
> >or M. or who of all the long list of great ones.
> >........I have also in a black walnut affair
> >between the windows in an inner place the brass
> >gong given me in 1878.  But nothing ever comes
> >there, of which I complain not, inasmuch as
> >I suppose I am not able to receive anything."
> >Letter of January 12, 1881 to HPB and Co.
> >
> >"Once I had the honour and advantage of
> >hearing wisdom from M. but that has ceased long
> >ago.......I do not even suppose M. would
> >answer you in regard to me except in enigmatical
> >terms, however much either of us desired........
> >Will you dare to speak to M. for me?.......
> >Will you ask him whether he considers it worth
> >while to send me through you a word of advice.
> >......."Letter of July 26th 1881 to Damodar Malankaar
> >
> >"Although I never had the name given me I have
> >when Mme. Blavatsky was here had the honor of
> >hearing from him viva voce, I mean Koot Hoomi and
> >also from others............While H.P.B. was here,
> >they came many and many a time and spoke with
> >Olcott and myself.  but their identity was
> >secure because neither of us at that time could
> >piece the wall of matter and see the true
> >occupant.  We had to depend entirely upon
> >changes of expression." Letter of August 1,
> >1881 to Alfred Sinnett
> >
> >"I know that M. and the other are watching me------
> >and maybe helping too-------but they say nothing."
> >Letter of Jan 16, 1882 to HS Olcott
> >
> >"M wrote me through H.P.B. that I was a rose
> >colored loafer........."  Letter of May 17th, 1882
> >to HS Olcott
> >
> >"Now as to me will you ask [the Master]
> >if there be anything to say to
> >me.  I work all the time.  How does he explain
> >the meaning of his message through you that I
> >'showed intuition by leaving India.'"  If you
> >do not care to bother with [it], it will not make
> >any difference.  If 10 years have not made any
> >change certainly fialure to get this will not."
> >Letter of February 5, 1886 to Madame Blavatsky
> >
> >"You know well that of all the Theosophs I have
> >heard least from Masters.  I suppose there must
> >be good cause, either my fault or best for
> >my development.  Can you say?  Will you say?"
> >Letter of September 3, 1886 to Mme. Blavatsky
>
>         To understand W.Q.J. the occultist, you must read his writings.
> To understand his inner struggles suggested by the quotations above, I
> suggest you read ~Letters That Have Helped Me~, available from United
> Lodge of Theosophists and Theosophical University Press.
>
>                 Sincerely yours,
>
>                 Dara Eklund
>
>