Theos-Talk Archives (November 1997 Message tt00429)

Oh, and there's one more point regarding the idea that belief can't be
organized. It involves the importance of family versus something - say more
along the lines of civilization. When I look back and see the way the
dinosaurs lived, limitedly, I marvel at how many animals in the world today
are so nurturing, so taken with family life, and advanced in the ways of
family. It appears to me that man has communicated and learned tremendously
by the institution of family. (That is if you view yourself as having
walked the boardwalk from dinosaur to human.)

I agree with what Krishnamurti is saying, because just because the human
influence may have predisposed - what I will term matter - to become better
by being engaged in family matters, does in no way predict the outcome of
the animal's free will in this regard. Likewise, if I view an ascended
master existence (as a community of beings or kingdom of beings) as
affecting our human decisions about what we are going to make of our lives,
I have to admit that other factors might figure in greatly. The variable of
existence which they are providing us with by showing themselves to us is
one of many variables that goes into process of deciding our future and
logical outcome of our situation. Many things could cause us to waiver from
the wonder of truth that they are capable of showing us. That would not be
wrong, because that is why I believe we were created as thinking,
changeable creatures.

We don't just take their example and then work ourselves into what they
have depicted. We work on keeping harmony within our human kingdom. We work
on outside forces, such as upcoming cosmic events. We work on what we
perceive our destiny to be when communicating, without the aid of the
masters, with the great being that is our sun. Our planetary chain has a
plan. I suppose the plan could be for humans to develop in a manner similar
to the last human wave, but that is too cut and dried. However, I'm sure I
have organized in the past and there has been benefit from it. Look at the
hierarchy of animals in the world. What a marvel of intricate relationship!
If we could have had a part in creation there, are we now to just "let go"
of all of that organizing talent and let others do that work for us?

For instance, my belief that ascended masters prefer to influence our
"civilization" over perhaps an influence of "family living." How does it
hurt to imagine something greater by looking around me and try to perceive
steps "up the mountain" as he illustrates? Don't organizations make up
civilization? Perhaps they are found useless and so is the family in order
to create room for something better. However, I still think we need to make
decisions just among human beings, to try to come to terms with our own
plans for the future, in spite of what plans are handed to us by the next
kingdom. If organizations are not the way to do so, at least we have our
communication and strength of thought in drawing forth the light from each
member of our extended family, as if each member is of intricate importance.

> I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by
>>any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. That is my point of
>>view, and I adhere to that absolutely and unconditionally. Truth, being
>>limitless, unconditioned, unapproachable by any path, whatsoever, cannot be
>>organized, nor should any organization be formed to lead or to coerce people
>>along any particular path. If you first understand that, then you will see,
>>how impossible it is to organize a belief. A belief is purely an individual
>>matter, and you cannot and must not organize it. If you do, it becomes
>>dead, crystallized, it becomes a creed, a sect, a religion, to be imposed on
>>others. This is what everyone throughout the world is attempting to do.
>>Truth is narrowed down and made a plaything for those who are weak, for
>>those who are only momentarily discontented. Truth cannot be brought down,
>>rather the individual must make the effort to ascend to it. You cannot
>>bring the mountain-top to the valley. If you would attain to the
>>mountain-top you must pass through the valley, climb the steeps, unafraid of
>>the dangerous precipices. You must climb towards the Truth, it cannot be
>>"stepped down" or organized for you. Interest in ideas is mainly sustained
>>by organizations, but organizations only awaken interest from without.
>>Interest, which is not born out of love of Truth for its own sake, but
>>aroused by an organization, is of no value. The organization becomes a
>>framework into which its members can conveniently fit. They no longer
>>strive after Truth or the mountaintop, but rather carve for themselves a
>>convenient niche in which they put themselves or let the organization place
>>them and consider the organization will thereby lead them to Truth.
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