Theos-Talk Archives (November 1997 Message tt00336)

David Green wrote:

> Thanks DT & JHE for informative emails on Mr Judge.
>
> You wrote--------
> > Most of these letters remain unpublished even today.
> >However, the letter to Damodar that she quotes has subsequently been
> >published in DAMODAR AND THE PIONEERS OF THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT. I
> >have checked the quote, and in my opinion, Besant had taken Judge's
> >statement out of context. Judge was not expressing his envy that
> >Damodar was in touch with the Masters and he wasn't but rather, Judge
> >was expressing his envy to Damodar for being in India, in the center of
> >the Theosophic action, while he was holding down the fort in America.
> >But Judge had also made similar statements to both HPB and Olcott, and
> >IMO proves nothing one way or the other about being in contact with
> >Masters.
>
> I dont have the book by Mr Damodar. Could you give the quote from Mr
> Judge?
>

The Book was compiled and annotated by Sven Eek and is entitled DAMODAR AND
THE PIONEERS OF THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT. It is still available from TPH
for $19.95. The book is over 700 pages long and is a treasure of source
documents. The correspondence between Judge and Damodar run from pgs
25-77. Rather then quote from them, you might gain a better personal
understanding of them if you were to read them yourself in total.

> You also wrote-----
> >5. The only living person I know of who has seen the Judge letters in
> >question is an independent Theosophical Historian named Michael Gomes.
> >I have questioned him extensively over a period of several years
> >concerning those letters, and he was clear to me that he did not find
> >the statements that Olcott claims to exist in those letters.
>
> Could you provide Dr Gome's written statement? Or give us Dr Gome's
> University address for communication purposes?

No written statements; it was just a series of discussions. If you want to
write him, send an e-mail to my address and I will pass it on. However,
before writing him or any other researcher about this, I strongly suggest
that you first do some research on your own into the source documents. That
way, you will be able to ask questions from your own base of knowledge and
to evaluate whatever they have to say, rather than just blindly comparing
the opinions of one writer against the opinions of another.

Best
Jerry