Theos-Talk Archives (November 1997 Message tt00070)

Getting our discussions to the mail-list:

Some glimpses from this letter:
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That our present Solar System is going through a period, which corresponds
to the periods undergone in the sixth Chains of the Panetary Schemes.
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It is my opinion: That our Solar System is together with other Solar
Systems, evolving in our Systemic Cosmic Scheme, with a corresponding
function as
the Scheme of Venus has in our Solar System.
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We always use the same life-atoms,
life after life. That is our only property.
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The question is: How can we follow the evolutionary process of the etheric
atomic life-unit, up to 100 % of energy graduation. ?
>From which it graduates into another Absolute Dimension.
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When I wrote:

>..." we are in the sixth Solar System of seven.
>Thus the Heart centers of the Schemes are the most important, and the
>qualities of the Heart. We are all Adepts in Spirit from the last Solar System.
>Our Solar System is highly evolved and will graduate Humanity of the Chohan
>degree. We are just beginning on The Way."
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When writing this: Then I was writing about the evolution of our Solar
Systemic Scheme, in the Cosmic Scheme.
Not only our Planetary Scheme, in the Solar Systemic Scheme.

You wrote:
>"Yes I can see why some of our "terms" are different. I have found one of
>the values of Theosophy is that it reconciles all systmes. Terms can be
>settled by adjusting words to ideas. Ideas are important."

For clarity, let me set up this list of terms:

 1. The Cosmic Cosmic Logos: Manifests through Solar Systemic Cosmic
 Systems; which serve Him as the etheric centres serve the man in
evolution.

 2. The Systemic Cosmic Logos: Manifests through a number of Solar
Systems; which serve "The Cosmic Cosmic Logos," as the interior
microcosmos in an etheric center of a man, serves the man.

 3. A Solar Logos: Manifests within The Systemic Cosmic System, according
 to its function in energy graduation for The Cosmic Cosmic System.

 Repeating this in other words, and getting closer to our present
human stage, we can say:

Our Solar System goes through a period in our Systemic Cosmic Scheme; -
which is an etheric center in the Cosmic Cosmic Scheme; - which corresponds
to what a Planetary Scheme goes through in the Solar Systemic Scheme.
Therefore we can say; with that correspondence in mind:

That our present Solar System is going through a period, which corresponds
to the periods undergone in the sixth Chains of the Planetary Schemes.

Let us take a look at this:
This concerns our Planetary Scheme:

We say: That there are ten Planetary Schemes in a Solar System. That there
are seven Planetary Chains in a Planetary Scheme. That there are seven
Planetary Globes in a Chain. And seven Planetary Rounds on a Globe. And
seven root-races in a Round. And seven sub-races in a Root-race. And seven
branch-races in a sub-race. And that in each branch-race, there are many
offshoots. "Culture periods."

Let us also take a look at this way:
Our Solar System in the Cosmic System:

Our Solar System has to go through seven Solar System periods in its Cosmic
Scheme.
Each Solar period corresponds to a Planetary Chain period in a Planetary
Scheme. We are now in the early beginning of the sixth Solar System, of seven.
In this Solar System we, the humans, must graduate as Chohans.
In the next Solar system we must graduate as Buddhas.

Such is our "Goal in Evolution", for our Systemic Cosmic Logos and our
Cosmic Cosmic Logos. Our Cosmic Cosmic Logos is preparing for comparative
stage in
His Cosmic evolution, as a "Buddha" does in the human.

Our Systemic Cosmic Logos is preparing for the same energy graduation as The
Cosmic Cosmic Logos, and that corresponds to what an etheric center must
achieve in a progress, in its function, in the etheric bodies of a man; in
all worlds where he evolves.

It is my opinion: that our Solar System is together with other Solar Systems
evolving in our Systemic Cosmic System, with a corresponding function, as
the Scheme of Venus has in our Solar System.

It helps us to understand our present evolution on our Planet, if we realize:
That we are whipped by the "history of time" from the third and the fourth
Solar System in our Systemic evolution, - as it filtered through the fifth
Solar system.
The synthetic planets of our Solar System, are still reaping the
harvest from the third and the fourth.

You see, that if I am right in my deductions, then we are still repeating
our "teenager" period from the past. Similar to as a teenager manifests through
his young etheric "life atoms" when young. We always use the same life-atoms,
life after life. That is our only property.

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My friend Dallas; - when you wrote:

"...To me the logic of such a statement is that we at present, are mid-way
between the beginning of our evolution and the potential end of it"....
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 Then I did not know, were you had your mind, in the great scale of
evolution. It could have been our Galaxy. Or our Universe of Galaxies.
 And there are many Universes of Galaxies.
 That is why I asked you.

>"Dallas; "From what reasoning do you make the deduction?
>that we
>at present are mid-way between the beginning of our evolution and the
>potential end of it."

 What ideas do you work from.?

 "Are you talking about our Planetary Scheme, our Solar system, our
 Systemic Cosmic system, or our Cosmic Cosmic System." ?


Then You wrote:

 "According to the "Secret Doctrine" (Vol. 1, p. 200 diagram) we are
in the
4th Round, on the 4th globe, in the 5th Race and belong as a general
physical group to the 5th Sub-Race. That is a general statement and would
accord with the statement that we have, as physical mankind, just passed
the mid-way point of evolution. Individual Monads follow, in their mental
and emotional development, their own course of evolution, and in any one
life they may be much in advance of the average group of Monads. So it is
not impossible for such an advanced one (in mind and heart) to belong to a
different level, such as you seem to imply. But even that kind of labeling
or distinction is not very important, as Karma will take care of our
successes and failures and those are important only to ourselves. I
believe that you are also correct in estimating that all Adepts associated
with and responsible for one orother aspects of progress on our Earth, and
the progress of some of the individual Monads, are related to the previous
Solar system of which ours is a reincarnation. I would say that Worlds,
like Monads reincarnate. And it is only reasonable that the Monads which
were assoicated in a previous Manvantara and now again brought into similar
relations so as to proceed with their joint karma to develop with each
other's help."

"To me the logic of such a statement is that we at present are mid-way
between the beginning of our evolution and the potential end of it. While
we may not be able to precisely state when the beginning was, so too, we
may find it difficult to define at peresent a "100%" graduation ! I would
say that on any one "world" there would be for all the beings involved in
human evolution (of the mind) a point when the majority would so
"graduate." Mme. Blavatsky in the "Secret Doctrine" considers that this
"world" of ours is a reincarnation of an earlier "world." So too, when
this world goes to "sleep" in the distant future it and all the beings
connected with it (including us, as thinkers, and as graduates) will again
be involved in that work of education whcih will be resumed there. By that
time we should be a great deal wiser and have more definite idea of what
our best work is and should be. And that will be a most interesting and
plasant duty to look forward to."
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I wrote:

Dallas: What text are you reffering to, when you use the quotation-marks.?

We could also use the term: These - the "life-atoms" - develop eventually
over a very long time into humans.
And humans develop eventually over a very long time into Cosmic Beings.

The question is: How can we follow the evolutionary process of the etheric
atomic life unit, up to 100 % energy graduation. ?
Both in our micro-Cosmos, - in our intermediary Cosmos - and in the Cosmic
Cosmos. And thereby understand the whole.

We also need to count for the evolution of the Angels; the evolution of the
planes.
And also the interaction of the Zodiacs: The Zodiacs of the Planes - the
number 12 - the magnets - the devas.
And the Zodiacs of Power - the number 10 - the rays - the humans.

And in this; we also need to count for these in the lesser zodiacs, in our
microcosmos.
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You wrote:
>"Briefly: The Universe is ONE. We, as minds are a part of it. Our origin
>began way, way back in time, but the gain of experience has never been lost
>or obliterated. The word "life-atom" was used to show the continuity from
>such a beginning to the stage we are now in, that of being a human and
>employing a well developed "mind." There are no limits to our future.
>Reincarnation is a logical necessity in such a consideration as the "Center
>of Consciousness" is imperishable. We are the "Eternal Pilgrims." We are
>actual brothes to all of mankind and to every being in Nature--which is the
>vast pool of our "younger brothers."
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Thank you Dallas.

Corresponding with you is interesting.
We come from different schools of thought, I can see that.
That makes it interesting. To compare ideas.


Best wishes,

Sveinn Freyr