Theos-Talk Archives (October 1997 Message tt00053)

Kazimir:

> Perfection can not have imperfect parts.

I assume that perfection in this sentence refer to 'whole'.
There are three possible category of 'whole' in relation to its
parts.

1 It is of the same type of its parts.

e.g.  A group of students or a family.

2 It is of the different type of its parts.

e.g.  Human body compose of tissue, cell.

3 The Infinite.

I think your definition of perfection can apply only to category
1, not with category 2 unless you redefine the perfection of
parts in relation to the whole.

In category 1 when a member of students fails an exam then that
group of students is not perfect.

In category 2 an imperfect cell which has lost its nucleus such
as red blood cell may be an essential part of our perfect body.

In category 3 we can't define it perfection.

> If you remember it, I defined the world as 'everything that
> exists at all' so it contain all our subjective or objective
> thoughts, 'underlying reality', God, etc. It is very usual

The world in your definition can be interpreted in two ways.

1.  It may be collection of all human beings, animals etc.  then
it should be considered as category 1 and I agree with you that
it is not perfect but I also add that it is phenomenal world and
in a sense illusion, Maya.

2.  The underlying reality of phenomenal world, the Absolute, the
One Life, the Parabrahm of the Vedantins, which is the only
Reality and it is in category 3 and all speculation is impossible
since it transcends the power of human conception.  So it is
inappropriate to say that it is not perfect even though we may
wonder why it manifests the phenomenal world as such.

Your question has value and many of us have made insightful
response.  It is not only an interesting logical question but its
answer has also practical application in forming our strategy to
deal with life which may be salvation or anihilation of
ourselves.

Many forms of this question with minor difference have been
raised by inquiring mind throughout the age.  Here are some of
the variation I can think of.

If God exists why he permit so much misery in the world?

The ultimate reality as immutable Law cannot be conscious or
intelligent for there is no duality, nothing to wake intelligence
or to be conscious of.  Then how intelligent with its duality
evolve from non intelligent?

If the collective intelligence of Dhyan Chohans is the result of
Cosmic Evolution, how can they be artificers of the world, the
primary principle of the Universe, the Universal Mind?

If everything in reality is already in perfect state, Nirvana,
and suffering is Maya then what to striving for?