Re: Re:Buddhist drunks
Oct 08, 1997 08:21 AM
by Brenda S Tucker
> > If purity and love can both exist simultaneously, then a battle
> > has been won.
>
> Of course they exist simultaneously, everything exists together
> with itself and all other things. This is axiomatic. It is
> dialectical/Aristotelian thinking which creates separations. It
> must be either or. Why not both. It seems to me that pure-love
> is not the illusion, but this idea that there must be separtness.
> Union with the Absolute is rather matter of factly purity and
> love manifest in our living flesh.
I didn't get "love" from this answer. So, in that sense, does it
exist?
> > Many times we would gladly sacrifice our purified "ivory tower"
> > to enter and influence a world where goodness has strayed. This
> > would be the love within us yearning for the contact with other
> > divine sparks.
>
> "goodness" is always straying, but Goodness is pure. There I
> believe are no towers of ivory, particularly if you mean by this
> a place to escape the lack of "goodness." There is no escaping
> the manifold of values in which we live. This is where we are,
> and this is now. What else? Purity, Goodness, Love and simply
> vehicles, sometimes of an interpersonal nature, sometimes of a
> personal nature which are a finger pointing at the moon. If you
> watch the finger, you never seen the moon.
You seem to be speaking from a mental level. I am speaking from
my experiences.
> > Whether it is purity or love we crave, who is doing the craving?
>
> What is craved and who craves? Dichotomy, no! Dualism, No! The
> Glory of all things is God...Source of the things that are is
> God, who is both Mind and Nature, Nature, Energy, Necessity, and
> End, and Making new again.
Purity is something we do. When it is not being done by me, then
it is not existing. I am only capable of two or three
simultaneous activites in a moment, although the moments do
follow quickly upon each other. If I am not concentrating on
purity or actively involved in that sense, then it is in a
quiescent state. It may still effect my life, but it becomes
secondary to whatever I choose to hold as my direction or goal.
> > I didn't feel myself pure in body, nor in spirit, when compared
> > to the great beings who instruct us. So purity, and all
> > associated activities of producing purity, became for me an
> > ascended master activity. THEY are what's truly pure in my life.
You do not understand the sense that I am speaking about goodness
and oneness. My idea of the seven races, involves an overlap of
the preceeding and succeeding kingdoms of nature, so that during
the first root race of man, human essence pervades over the
dinosaur forms here on earth. The dinosaurs are ascending and
preparing to leave the earth. They are finding it difficult to
function under the laws of nature as at every turn their activity
seems to be a mistake (as it compared to ours). The second race
finds animal and man co-existing within a "presence" or soul
body, likewise exerting hermaphroditic influence upon the
material form of their existence. Dinosaur ascends, human
descends again until the form reaches a state of separation when
mammals became a "sishta" form here on earth and plants changed
dramatically to produce flowers, and man now has its own
separate, characteristic shape.
Fourth race man experiences earth with God as the force behind
our existence. We are free beings.
Fifth race we come under the influence of the Ascended Masters.
They are our law. They live through our lives and begin to
contact material existence here. Sixth race again finds us
existing in a "presence" side by side with our beloved masters
and seventh race finds us hovering above the earth which is now
wonderfully inhabited by them - perhaps all forms here have
turned to light, I don't know.
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