Theos-Talk Archives (September 1996 Message tt00022)

Brenda:

> > All Monads do not develop equally. "The most retarded of all,
> > i.e., those still occupying animal forms after the middle turning
> > point of the Fourth Round, will not become men at all during this
> > Manvantara. They will reach to the verge of humanity only at the
> > close of the Seventh Round to be, in their turn, ushered into a
> > new chain after pralaya--by older pioneers, the progenitors of
> > humanity, or the Seed-Humanity (Sishta), viz., the men who will
> > be at the head of all at the end of these Rounds.
> >
> > -- I, 182
>
> In this case, I don't see a major conflict. Mankind is 7-fold
> and it is difficult to know sometimes if the whole 7-fold nature
> is being discussed or only one part is meant. What I understand
> a sishta to be is the "remainder" or physical form that is stored
> somehow on the globe even after the life-wave has left it. If
> the souls of men are on Globe D, then aren't their sishtas or
> previously occupied and developed forms left behind on each of
> the other 6 globes, only to be reactivated when the life-wave
> moves on to those globes.

As I understand it, sishtas are not invisible just inactive. Our
plants are sishtas now but when they were in full swing here,
they moved about all over the place. The mineral kingdom also
moved so it would have been impossible for the human type form to
have lived as we are, in a world where nothing stood still long
enough to give a sense of stability. We still see the rocks etc
but not their activity. Lichens are the inbetween sishtas of the
mineral and plant kingdom and so I understand, will be the
starting point of the minerals graduating to plants in the next
round.

> > When the hour strikes for Purusha to mount on Prakriti's
> > shoulders for the formation of the Perfect Man--rudimentary man
> > of the first 2 1/2 Races being only the *first*, gradually
> > evolving into *the most perfect of mammals*--the Celestial
> > "Ancestors" (Entities from preceding worlds, called in India the
> > Sishtas) step in on this our plane, as the Pitris had spetted in
> > before them for the formation of the physical or animal-man, and
> > incarnate in the latter.
> >
> > -- I, 248
>
>
> Does this say that the first 2 1/2 races are the first step on
> our plane and that this precedes the enaction of the sishtas
> which were left here in some sort of physical existence. The
> Pitris had to do it in the first round and may also have a role
> in man's creation in later rounds, because we don't just use the
> sishtas as they are, but develop them to fit our incoming life.

I think of the hybrids we have made especially in the plant
kingdom. This would suggest that many ways of development of
sishtas are happening. When the sishtas of humanity are involved
in the incoming life of the dyani-chohans that follow us, changes
may occur to them from being in close proximity to beings who
know how to manipulate energies that we have no knowledge off.

> > The Imperishable Sacred Land "is the cradle of the first man and
> > the dwelling of the last *divine* mortal, chosen as a Sishta for
> > the future seed of the humanity.
> >
> > -- II, 6
>
> What I am suggesting happens, is that each kingdom which inhabits
> a globe makes use of the sishtas that are there in some way. For
> instance, if the state of the "true" animal is a dinosaur, then
> when the human lifewave replaced the animal lifewave here, we
> also effected the animal sishtas in such a way that they now
> appear to in a much advanced state of existence then when they
> were occupied by the dinosaur. Our lifewave may be able to have
> a positive, advancing effect on an "empty form", as each
> succeeding life wave also would effect or change any sishta until
> it is again taken for use by the animal's true soul.

> > Sishtas and Prajapatis have thrown the seed of life on the Earth.
> >
> > -- II, 150
> >
> > The Occult Commentary says this about the succession of Races:
> > "First come the SELF-EXISTENT on this Earth. They are the
> > 'Spiritual Lives' projected by the absolute WILL and LAW, at the
> > dawn of every rebirth of the worlds. These LIVES are the divine
> > 'Sishta' [the seed-Manus, or the Prajapatis and the Pitris].
> >
> > -- II, 164
> >
> It's very confusing to me how a sishta can be maintained. Is it
> invisible? Is it buried deep in the earth only to be set free by
> cataclysm? I don't know. Maybe it is held a quiet secret in the
> elements of matter.

As mentioned above, sishtas are here, visible as the plant
kingdom. I believe that many have vanished completely as with
the animals and that the plants, animals etc that remain at the
end of the 7th root race with humanity are the cream of the crop,
so to speak and hang in as seed sishtas for the next round. As
the energies of the 4th globe itself refine, many of the
lifeforms depart as it is not their level of participation any
more. Perhaps sishtas also exist in the aura of the 4th globe as
sort of patterns for next time and objectify at the appropriate
energy level on globe 5. Who really knows? :-)

> > Sishtas "are shown in the Puranas as preserved "with the seeds of
> > all things, in the ark, from the waters of that inundation <...>
> > which, in the season of a Pralaya, overspreads the world [the
> > Earth].
> >
> > -- II, 307 fn
>
> They have to remain here an entire cycle of existence. If we are
> permitted to use them and to shape them to our needs, they would
> certainly change form many times within that cycle.
>
> > ...there are "root-Manus," and what we have to clumsily translate
> > as the "seed-Manus"--*the seeds for the human races of the
> > forthcoming Round" [or the Sishtas--the surviving fittest].
> >
> > -- II, 308
>
> > ...some of the great adepts will return in the Seventh Race,when
> > all error will be made away with, and the advent of TRUTH will be
> > heralded by those Sishtas, the holy "Sons of Light".
> >
> > -- II, 351
>
> I wonder if in each round we aren't allowed the use of one more
> kingdom of nature, so that in the fourth round, we only have four
> kingdoms visible and readily available. In the seventh round,
> all seven kingdoms could be at least approachable by man, if not
> visible and free to interact with man.

That sounds reasonable to me.

> > Noah--identical with the Hindu Sishta, the human seed, left for
> > the peopling of the Earth from a previous creation or Manvantara,
> > as expressed in the Puranas,...
> >
> > -- II, 596
>
> (Maxim) It seems to imply that Sishtas are Monads, Prajapatis,
> Sons of Light, adepts--almost everything but empty shells,
> especially those of animals, plants, and minerals. On the
> contrary, they are chunks of the spirit that inform or inhabit
> forms or shells.
>
> Then how do you explain the way that the lifewaves follow each
> other around the globes? A physical atom also has a monad.
>
> (Maxim) I believe you are confusing two different (converging)
> streams--the evolution of the form and the involution of the
> spirit.
>
> (Maxim) Also, if sishtas are Monads, no wonder we do not see
> them--obviously it requires a faculty of monadic vision.
>
> You say there are no shistas here because you don't see them, but
> if we are able to effect the form of a shista for its betterment,
> make it look and act quite more advanced then it is, perhaps what
> we have is a bit of an illusion. They look like what we think
> animals, plants, and minerals should be and we are aiding the
> evolution of the form, but by the time the life returns to it,
> other kingdoms will likewise have acted on these forms. How? I
> don't know.
>
> I was reading a book called MYSTERIES OF THE UNEXPLAINED,
> published by The Reader's Diegest Association in 1982. In it,
> there is a section called "Anomalies" on p. 34. Within this
> section on p. 43 begins a section called "Living animals, locked
> in stone." In these 11 or so accounts, ranging from late 16th
> century to 1972, 6 toads, 2 lizards, newts, a pterodactyl, and
> microorganisms, were liberated from rock enclosures in a living,
> moving condition. The rock types were magnesian limestone 25
> feet below ground, lump of ore 12 feet below ground, red
> sandstone 4 and 1/2 feet deep, newts were found in a chalk quarry
> at 270 feet, coal, a flint nodule, Jurassic limestone, and the
> microorganisms were locked in potassium ore.
>
> The sources are: Scientific American, The Zoologist, British
> Association for the Advancement of Science, Illustrated London
> News, associated with University of Cambridge doctor of geology,
> a King's surgeon, found in laboratories and in mines by miners.
>
> This could very well be the explanation for where the shistas
> are!! I could imagine them buried in rock someplace on earth!!
> What percentage of earth has been dug into? And doesn't this do
> Adam justice at last?

I don't think GdeP would agree with the above. To me a tree in
winter that has shed its leaves and withdrawn its sap, could be
thought of as a minor sishta until it reactivates in spring. It
is still evident as a tree but seems lifeless until the sap
returns. "As above so below" and sideways too. All life is
cyclic and some cycles just more evident that others yet they
signify similarities. That may be why may sages used analogies
to express themselves because it is all wheels within wheels.