Theos-Talk Archives (July 1996 Message tt00016)

Dara Eklund wrote:

> Dear Bee:
>
> I believe you touched a key string in stating that for our
> present brain power it is mere speculation to think about sishtas
> in the 10-fold or 12-fold classifications.  In fact even the
> ideas of "Sishta's" is so little known by us in its actual
> ramifications that it seems fruitless to speculate.  However,
> what you say is in harmony with key teachings when you write:
> "Once the door is closed to animal monads they remain as such but
> much later, in the NEXT CHAIN, they become the animal-human monad
> that will be like us now, in that chain."

It seems that GdePurucker is the main expounder of sishtas and it was the
life they lead that seemed to equate with the Garden of Eden story which got
my interest up and running. Speculation can lead to interesting ideas which
of course, may have little to do with actual facts but sometimes a nugget
appears out of the blue and that is what has kept me going.

> Nicholas just showed me a passage from H.P.B.'s article "Have
> Animals Souls?" where H.P.B.  is speaking of the pralaya at the
> end of each Manvantara---"when there will be left the *Sishtas*,
> or remnants seven Rishis and one warrior, and all the seeds for
> the next human `tide-wave of the following Round'." Then follows
> a footnote reference to an orthodox Hinsu view which is
> summarized from ~What is Hindu Religion~ by Dewan Bahadur
> Raghunath Rao of Madras, who says:
>
> "At the end of each Manvantara, annihilation of the world takes
> place; but one warrior, seven Rishis, and the seeds are saved
> from destruction....These eight persons are called *Sishtas*, or
> remnants, because they alone remain after the destruction of all
> the others."
>
> H.P.B.  adds: "This is the orthodox version.  The secret one
> speaks of seven Initiates having attained Dhyanchohanship toward
> the end of the seventh Race on this earth, who are left on earth
> during its `obscuration' with the seed of every mineral, plant,
> and animal that had not time to evolute into man for the next
> Round or world-period.  See ~Esoteric Buddhism~ by A.P.  Sinnett,
> 5th ed.  Annotations, pp.146, 147."

Here in the first part, we appear to be refering to the end of a
chain when things are quite different, than the end of a globe.
The sishtas as we have been discussing are at the end of a globe
when it goes into obscuration which is a sort of mini pralaya.
At the end of a chain there is a proper chain pralaya and so the
higher beings keep an eye on things but GdeP says that they are
not sishtas in the same sense as global sishtas.  Terminology can
make differences of things that really are not so different.

> I feel the key words here are "the seed....THAT HAD NOT TIME TO
> EVOLUTE INTO MAN [caps for emphasis]" The goal of this evolution
> is Man becoming God-like, but still Man, not animals.  Because I
> do feel it is enough to get the over-all picture at this stage of
> our "round"ing out, I am unable to speculate further on all these
> charming but questionable statements of men as "pets" of the
> Gods.

That again was GdeP being light-hearted, I think.  The next
kingdom to follow us once we go into obscuration after the 7th
root-race is the Dhyani-Chohan kingdom and it is them that look
after the sishtas.  We leave behind our highest and most
spiritually evolved beings to hold the fort so to speak till the
rest of us come back in the 5th Round to Globe D.  The sishtas
would need to be in cruise mode as that appears to be a long,
long time, millions of years before we return to Globe D in Round
5.  It kinda boggles the mind.

> Admiring your ability to deal with abstractions,

Thank you, but I thought it was intuitive thinking :-)

I seem to have a affinity of sorts to GdeP and am grateful that I
can intuitively follow his 'knowing' part of the way into the
realms of his experience.

> Dara

Kindest regards to you and Nicholas.

Bee